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jecris27 (3:04:58 PM): 3
jecris27 (3:05:00 PM): 2
jecris27 (3:05:01 PM): 1
mini4many (3:05:12 PM): and the music and THAT voice begins
purplechocfan (3:05:13 PM): Ready for liftoff.... ZOOM!
sonnetsrus123 (3:05:38 PM): what's that opening shot of Elaine? That white building?
joaniegirl75 (3:05:42 PM): oh, I love that voice.
mini4many (3:05:43 PM): A Childrens Story.....Disc 3
esmith591 (3:05:48 PM): I think it's the Bell building
esmith591 (3:05:52 PM): Have to look again
bist_1968 (3:08:17 PM): Damned wind:D
hrhkitty1 (3:08:28 PM): I could listen to that voice forever
marypeppe (3:08:37 PM): me too
hrhkitty1 (3:09:05 PM): So this is another episode that was taped earlier right?
jecris27 (3:09:06 PM): to beat you
jecris27 (3:09:07 PM): hehe
marypeppe (3:09:13 PM): lol
joaniegirl75 (3:09:14 PM): The running chess joke.
jecris27 (3:09:16 PM): this one was taped second
esmith591 (3:09:26 PM): Lots of Tiffany lamps Below
hrhkitty1 (3:09:33 PM): cause her dress is the one in the opening sequence
timeflies3000 (3:09:39 PM): Nothing but the best for the tunnels
sonnetsrus123 (3:10:02 PM): I just noticed that V's make-up is a bit different here than later
timeflies3000 (3:10:06 PM): Dark mantle!
hrhkitty1 (3:10:10 PM): Was Kipper always the same actor?
esmith591 (3:10:16 PM): Lots of work she's bringing home
timeflies3000 (3:10:25 PM): no bathroom
joaniegirl75 (3:10:32 PM): no, in the pilot it was a different boy.
hrhkitty1 (3:10:44 PM): that's what I thought
jecris27 (3:10:55 PM): the makeup was always the same
jecris27 (3:11:00 PM): it's the lighting that changed
sonnetsrus123 (3:11:03 PM): love the note with the rose!
jecris27 (3:11:08 PM): according to Margaret Bessera, the makeup gal
esmith591 (3:11:08 PM): such nice handwriting
timeflies3000 (3:11:11 PM): I think V DOES look different
bist_1968 (3:11:24 PM): Later the balcony-doors where different, or have i hallus???
marypeppe (3:11:26 PM): he does look different
esmith591 (3:11:29 PM): It could easily be the lighting
timeflies3000 (3:11:33 PM): Ya think?
esmith591 (3:11:38 PM): I think they were different. The doors
jecris27 (3:11:44 PM): read the interview with Margaret Bessera on CABB
marypeppe (3:11:48 PM): almost everything at cathy´s was different
jecris27 (3:11:48 PM): fascinating stuff
purplechocfan (3:11:49 PM): Catherine bought some new doors.
esmith591 (3:11:57 PM): The metal door is open
purplechocfan (3:12:00 PM): and other stuff.
esmith591 (3:12:01 PM): That's unusual
hrhkitty1 (3:12:19 PM): I notice differences between episodes... sometimes he looks more like Ron.
bist_1968 (3:12:26 PM): Were they broken???:)
hrhkitty1 (3:12:32 PM): J where on CABB is that?
marypeppe (3:12:35 PM): so sweet words he says
sonnetsrus123 (3:12:43 PM): V's quite open about his feelings here!
sonnetsrus123 (3:12:51 PM): also unusual, I think
timeflies3000 (3:12:52 PM): NO joke
vickychandler87 (3:12:55 PM): moh yes
esmith591 (3:13:04 PM): Yes. and would have been odd as second episode, I think.
mini4many (3:13:07 PM): The only thing we can do, we endure the pain and savor every moment of the joy.
timeflies3000 (3:13:10 PM): agreed
jecris27 (3:13:13 PM): http://www.classicalliance.net/celebrit ... views.html
hrhkitty1 (3:13:25 PM): thanks J >:D<
timeflies3000 (3:14:13 PM): I love the way their hands separate while they look at each other...
vickychandler87 (3:14:29 PM): so sweet
purplechocfan (3:14:42 PM): Vincent is a Babe Magnet. :))
hrhkitty1 (3:15:05 PM): :-< sooo wish I could find a Vincent..
esmith591 (3:15:07 PM): biological alarm -- smack that boy
marypeppe (3:15:11 PM): lol
timeflies3000 (3:15:24 PM): Or make fun of his hairspray
vickychandler87 (3:15:25 PM): hahahaha!
mini4many (3:15:44 PM): i love Joe's smirk
sonnetsrus123 (3:15:51 PM): that looks like my college dorm
marypeppe (3:15:54 PM): he is sweet!
esmith591 (3:16:01 PM): nice college
purplechocfan (3:16:04 PM): Still can't find those rassinfrassin Beads for my Vincent's shirt... Grrr
joaniegirl75 (3:16:06 PM): I just love Joe.
sonnetsrus123 (3:16:10 PM): yes, that was AFTER the renovations
esmith591 (3:16:23 PM): Just how many coats do you think Cathy has?
purplechocfan (3:16:27 PM): 1000
purplechocfan (3:16:29 PM): Heehee
lamartus (3:16:32 PM): around 100.000
timeflies3000 (3:16:34 PM): too many for the size closet she has!
hrhkitty1 (3:16:34 PM): about as many robes
marypeppe (3:16:35 PM): or more than that
bist_1968 (3:16:45 PM): Where are you now I#M already in the class!
midnight_star_chaser (3:16:50 PM): i have no clue
esmith591 (3:16:50 PM): This is the Veronica Lake look
esmith591 (3:16:57 PM): now in the class
bist_1968 (3:17:19 PM): Thanks!
purplechocfan (3:17:23 PM): She has some coats that she took down below and then switches them.when she wants something different. Father Complains cause.... They're IN HIS CLOSET!
timeflies3000 (3:17:29 PM): Coke bottles!
joaniegirl75 (3:17:45 PM): LOL
vickychandler87 (3:17:52 PM): Lol!
purplechocfan (3:18:23 PM): Coke Bottles- plastic or glass?
timeflies3000 (3:18:39 PM): glass, definitely
timeflies3000 (3:18:46 PM): well, maybe not...
purplechocfan (3:18:54 PM): That's 1980s stuff for you.
joaniegirl75 (3:18:59 PM): They magnify his eyes so they are probably real glass.
timeflies3000 (3:19:11 PM): good point
vickychandler87 (3:19:20 PM): mThat little girl is sweet...
hrhkitty1 (3:19:46 PM): no they're 'probably plastic.
hrhkitty1 (3:20:51 PM): if he's supposed to be as poor sighted as that they'd have to be plastic. glass is too heavy (hard to keep your head up) *speaking from expierence* :">
esmith591 (3:21:01 PM): Lots of plants in the office this time.
esmith591 (3:21:06 PM): Looks very different
joaniegirl75 (3:21:12 PM): poor Joe.
esmith591 (3:21:19 PM): Lincoln Center
esmith591 (3:21:23 PM): But that's not
esmith591 (3:21:26 PM): the inside
joaniegirl75 (3:21:46 PM): I don'
sonnetsrus123 (3:21:48 PM): I love her dress here--my fav is the series
esmith591 (3:21:54 PM): Yes, great dress
joaniegirl75 (3:22:04 PM): t know, that scene on the floor alwaysw looked so fakey to me. Don't know why.
timeflies3000 (3:22:07 PM): GReg looking for opportunties to touch her! LOL
jecris27 (3:22:09 PM): this date is easier to accept as ep#2
timeflies3000 (3:22:14 PM): Yes
purplechocfan (3:22:54 PM): One of my eyes has worse eyesight - I am nearsighted, and I now have plastic lenses, due to the right glass lens would have gone down my cheek and made the left lens go over my eyebrow in weight.
esmith591 (3:23:02 PM): Catherine has a great poker face
marypeppe (3:23:07 PM): of couse they´ve gone underground!!!!!!!!
esmith591 (3:23:08 PM): She could make a fortune playing cards
marypeppe (3:23:24 PM): where else??
timeflies3000 (3:23:24 PM): I think she has a great "longing" face too.
esmith591 (3:23:30 PM): true
sonnetsrus123 (3:23:47 PM): there's the orange coat--seems to be a favorite
mini4many (3:23:48 PM): i love the shots of V in the whispering gallery.......always my favorites of his alone shots
marypeppe (3:23:56 PM): therre in the balcony .. great longing face
vickychandler87 (3:24:30 PM): I think I'm ahead of you, where are you?
jecris27 (3:24:37 PM): i have C on the phone
esmith591 (3:24:41 PM): Catherine calling Child Social Services
timeflies3000 (3:24:42 PM): C's on the phone -just hung up
mini4many (3:24:46 PM): C is calling CSS from Ridley
esmith591 (3:24:48 PM): now leaving ridley
bist_1968 (3:24:56 PM): Let me say that i'm a fan of these original DVD - the noises are much more realistic, and Cathy has wide more temperament and more soulful than in the german version!!! And it's really great when the motions of the lips fit with the spoken words:D!!!
mini4many (3:25:03 PM): hi ya Wayne :-h
joaniegirl75 (3:25:03 PM): why didn't she just ask for their names then?
esmith591 (3:25:13 PM): good question, Joan
jecris27 (3:25:14 PM): lol Bi
mini4many (3:26:17 PM): Bi.....i would have to agree with you......lips need to match
esmith591 (3:26:19 PM): This is all just too Dickensian for me.
sonnetsrus123 (3:26:28 PM): I was just going to write that
timeflies3000 (3:26:44 PM): :)
sonnetsrus123 (3:26:45 PM): the bells on the pockets thing later is too direct an allusion to Oliver Twist
mini4many (3:27:42 PM): it sure is Elaine and Guilda....have to agree with you there
timeflies3000 (3:27:59 PM): Wow, that computer!
vickychandler87 (3:28:07 PM): Lol!
bist_1968 (3:28:13 PM): Great thing!!!
timeflies3000 (3:28:13 PM): totally WarGames
bist_1968 (3:28:50 PM): ..ant the tiping-noise - strange!!!
mini4many (3:29:34 PM): 20 years sure has see a BIG change in computers
esmith591 (3:30:01 PM): This part makes sense as ep 2, though.
bist_1968 (3:30:02 PM): Yeah, Linda - unbelieveable BIG!!!
jecris27 (3:30:03 PM): i miss the good old days sometimes... things were so simple then. ;-)
timeflies3000 (3:30:31 PM): Can you imagine if she showed up Below wearing that??
esmith591 (3:30:40 PM): Father would have a heart attack
timeflies3000 (3:30:41 PM): Funny how he's fine with it above
jecris27 (3:30:49 PM): she's freeze her little tootsies off
vickychandler87 (3:30:56 PM): Lol!
esmith591 (3:31:19 PM): This is the Lucy and Ethel scene
timeflies3000 (3:31:20 PM): this is one of my favorite Edie scenes
hrhkitty1 (3:31:23 PM): bit more than tootsies I 'd think
timeflies3000 (3:31:24 PM): lol
mini4many (3:31:28 PM): aw, come on......C just wants to be under V's cloak
marypeppe (3:31:52 PM): who wouldn´t?
bist_1968 (3:31:53 PM): ...but sadly he was to shy...
joaniegirl75 (3:31:54 PM): Edie's byplay with the clerk is hilarious.
jecris27 (3:32:03 PM): poor Edie
joaniegirl75 (3:32:12 PM): i love the way he looks for the handsome devil.
esmith591 (3:32:44 PM): I love the slippers in the pursse
timeflies3000 (3:32:51 PM): so gross
mini4many (3:32:52 PM): Edie and her bedroom slippers in her purse......always makes me laugh
jecris27 (3:32:53 PM): they're hilarious!
timeflies3000 (3:33:02 PM): funny, but gross!
purplechocfan (3:33:08 PM): Gotta be prepared for instant comfort
esmith591 (3:33:38 PM): And this hot dog vendor doesn't hear anything of this lesson
timeflies3000 (3:33:45 PM): hahahaha
timeflies3000 (3:33:52 PM): he's getting a cut
joaniegirl75 (3:33:57 PM): or does' twant to hear.
purplechocfan (3:34:02 PM): It's in the script.
jecris27 (3:34:04 PM): i thought she'd just bought those slippers
jecris27 (3:34:17 PM): bad excuse Edie gave when she left though
joaniegirl75 (3:34:27 PM): my mother was the only person I knw with eyes in the back of her head.
esmith591 (3:35:38 PM): Hard to believe he's got to pay for kids
esmith591 (3:35:47 PM): When he could just hang out at the Port Authority
vickychandler87 (3:35:47 PM): right
timeflies3000 (3:35:53 PM): no doubt
bist_1968 (3:36:01 PM): geasy guys...
sonnetsrus123 (3:36:06 PM): Yeah, not exactly up to Law and Order SU reality standards
marypeppe (3:36:06 PM): what is hard to believe is that happens in reality, not just in fiction
bist_1968 (3:36:09 PM): ...greasy...;-)
sonnetsrus123 (3:36:15 PM): SVU
bist_1968 (3:36:29 PM): No glasses - bottle-bottoms!!!
timeflies3000 (3:36:31 PM): I love the way C's just not afraid to go for it in heels
sonnetsrus123 (3:36:41 PM): ha
esmith591 (3:36:47 PM): I'm amazed she never breaks her ankle
timeflies3000 (3:36:53 PM): Absolutely!
bist_1968 (3:37:03 PM): lol Elaine!
timeflies3000 (3:37:05 PM): Personally, I'd never fight for justice without my tennis shoes
marypeppe (3:37:08 PM): I would break my heas if I ever try to run in heels!!
jecris27 (3:37:09 PM): lol
jecris27 (3:37:18 PM): i can't walk 3 steps in heels
marypeppe (3:37:26 PM): me too! lol
esmith591 (3:37:27 PM): That's 2 she's pushed down some stairs
sonnetsrus123 (3:37:44 PM): this is one of my all-time fav scenes
sonnetsrus123 (3:37:52 PM): when Eric meets V
vickychandler87 (3:37:55 PM): Oh sure!
esmith591 (3:37:55 PM): Yes
jecris27 (3:37:59 PM): yes
jecris27 (3:38:01 PM): very sweet
bist_1968 (3:38:01 PM): ...neither do i...
lamartus (3:38:02 PM): i love it too
purplechocfan (3:38:07 PM): I once had a manager type try to walk across a floor in front of me in heels, - Wet tile floor so I walked up and told her to take my arm and said I didn't want her to fall. I later saw her in sensible shoes. I myself wear a brand of tennis shoes.
marypeppe (3:38:07 PM): i was going to say... it´s such a sweet scene
mini4many (3:38:11 PM): is that real?
esmith591 (3:38:21 PM): She's so proud of herself - it's cute
marypeppe (3:38:41 PM): he´s so proud of her too
esmith591 (3:38:53 PM): this part also works as ep 2
jecris27 (3:38:58 PM): yes
timeflies3000 (3:39:03 PM): yes
vickychandler87 (3:39:21 PM): Yes
marypeppe (3:39:40 PM): but if they use this ep as 2 , they could never use TS as 10th
hrhkitty1 (3:39:44 PM): why did they switch them?
bist_1968 (3:39:51 PM): ...children always understand much better...
jecris27 (3:40:05 PM): TS was supposed to be 4th?
mini4many (3:40:09 PM): yes, children are more excepting
timeflies3000 (3:40:09 PM): Prod. always felt that it wasn't a strong episode and decided to bury it mid-season
marypeppe (3:40:14 PM): because they understand with their hearts
esmith591 (3:40:55 PM): love this scene
vickychandler87 (3:41:01 PM): I love this sceen too.
esmith591 (3:41:08 PM): Roy Dotrice is so great
marypeppe (3:41:46 PM): he makes eric promise to not tell without actually making him
vickychandler87 (3:42:00 PM): Get and accept help and support... He didn't always do that with Catherine...
esmith591 (3:42:11 PM): True, Vicky
bist_1968 (3:42:48 PM): Exactly, Vicky!!!
hrhkitty1 (3:42:50 PM): well that's cause she was perceived as a threat to *his* Vincent
purplechocfan (3:42:56 PM): He knows Catherine is able to take care of herself.
joaniegirl75 (3:43:01 PM): i think he was always seeing Catherine thru what I knew about Margaret.
joaniegirl75 (3:43:07 PM): he knew
esmith591 (3:43:11 PM): yep
esmith591 (3:43:20 PM): Eric gets to sleep in V's bed!
marypeppe (3:43:27 PM): oh! the way V looks C
vickychandler87 (3:43:29 PM): This is lovely!
hrhkitty1 (3:43:31 PM): lucky Eric
purplechocfan (3:43:56 PM): They'll get him a bed
bist_1968 (3:44:03 PM): lol - there were many people who slept there - sadly me not!!!
vickychandler87 (3:44:27 PM): Not so many, after all
jecris27 (3:44:42 PM): and for sure not Lisa! lol
esmith591 (3:44:45 PM): I want to know what all those sticky notes say
purplechocfan (3:44:46 PM): But you can in your imagination.
timeflies3000 (3:45:11 PM): probably quotes!
vickychandler87 (3:45:17 PM): No way, JE!
purplechocfan (3:45:21 PM): They probably say lines just in case people forget what they are supposed to say.
esmith591 (3:45:22 PM): The posse
bist_1968 (3:45:29 PM): lol - no consolation at all!
sonnetsrus123 (3:45:37 PM): I like this part, though it's a bit hokey
sonnetsrus123 (3:45:53 PM): I think the music is good, though
mini4many (3:45:53 PM): the tunnel kids sure made good spys.....like the Sherlock Holmes irregulars
vickychandler87 (3:45:58 PM): Lol!
jecris27 (3:46:03 PM): lol
jecris27 (3:46:56 PM): she sure has a lot of different coats and jackets!
esmith591 (3:47:03 PM): now this is a different entrance than in Labyrinths
esmith591 (3:47:18 PM): and robes
sonnetsrus123 (3:47:22 PM): yeah, less open to "invaders"
bist_1968 (3:47:24 PM): Why does Cathy always put gloves on - it was not the 80th-style!
sonnetsrus123 (3:47:31 PM): the entrance, not the robes!
jecris27 (3:47:42 PM): gloves for warmth?
esmith591 (3:47:44 PM): I don't know why the gloves
purplechocfan (3:47:45 PM): Catherine wants to have warm hands so she can heat up Vincent's hands
hrhkitty1 (3:48:08 PM): with furred hands?
purplechocfan (3:48:12 PM): Or something else. heehee
esmith591 (3:48:16 PM): maybe a way to indicate a northern climate without the actress having to sweat all the time under heavy coats
bist_1968 (3:48:18 PM): Aaahhh, NOW i see, Lara!
hrhkitty1 (3:48:28 PM): hopefully she hoping other parts of V's anatomy
marypeppe (3:48:40 PM): warmer parts you mean?
jecris27 (3:48:47 PM): he has tons of layers - his body parts are already warm
bist_1968 (3:48:52 PM): Yes, but the other people around dosnt't wear some!
jecris27 (3:48:53 PM): except maybe his nose ;-)
hrhkitty1 (3:49:11 PM): well that's furred too
esmith591 (3:49:13 PM): Soundstages can be really cold.
esmith591 (3:49:18 PM): Maybe Linda just wanted them
purplechocfan (3:49:26 PM): Air conditioning brrr
jecris27 (3:49:35 PM): judy said it was cold
jecris27 (3:49:50 PM): judy shimizu
timeflies3000 (3:49:51 PM): lots of hot lights
marypeppe (3:49:53 PM): the tunnels supouse to be cold so.. maybe that´s why
vickychandler87 (3:50:09 PM): Maybe she didn't want her fingerprints in the entrances... Lol, just kidding!
esmith591 (3:50:13 PM): Plus with Ron in all that makeup they would maybe have kept it higher for him
bist_1968 (3:50:13 PM): ...poor Ellie...
esmith591 (3:50:48 PM): lol
esmith591 (3:50:51 PM): one down
mini4many (3:51:00 PM): there goes fredie
vickychandler87 (3:51:13 PM): Lol!
bist_1968 (3:51:52 PM): ...sigh...
bist_1968 (3:52:01 PM): ...better...
jecris27 (3:52:17 PM): this part works as ep#2 too
esmith591 (3:52:20 PM): yes
timeflies3000 (3:52:22 PM): i just don't think you have this intimacy and then doubt him so completely in TS
esmith591 (3:52:35 PM): I think you can doubt him at almost any point
timeflies3000 (3:52:43 PM): really?
esmith591 (3:52:51 PM): If you see him kill that many people
esmith591 (3:52:56 PM): and others are being killed in the same way
vickychandler87 (3:52:59 PM): I agree with Elaine
timeflies3000 (3:53:00 PM): well ,i guess that's true
esmith591 (3:53:03 PM): How could it not be a possibility?
jecris27 (3:53:09 PM): yes, i agree too
timeflies3000 (3:53:12 PM): makes sense
lamartus (3:53:21 PM): =D> Great Ep!
jecris27 (3:53:22 PM): and when she was doubting, jace was only killing bad guys
timeflies3000 (3:53:28 PM): i'm thinking with my hindsight brain again
mini4many (3:53:31 PM): and so ends another chapter in the lives of V and C
esmith591 (3:53:34 PM): So have these kids grown up to be working adult actors?
esmith591 (3:53:38 PM): anybody know?
sonnetsrus123 (3:53:41 PM): :D
jecris27 (3:53:44 PM): no idea
timeflies3000 (3:53:45 PM): unsure
timeflies3000 (3:53:51 PM): you coule google
sonnetsrus123 (3:53:52 PM): I checked Ellie once--never found her
marypeppe (3:53:54 PM): Great one !!
esmith591 (3:54:01 PM): Why is this your favorite episode, gilda
vickychandler87 (3:54:05 PM): I like Kipper
sonnetsrus123 (3:54:21 PM): I was intrigued b/c I looked just like her at age 10 and wanted to know what she looks like as an adult
esmith591 (3:54:36 PM): Ah
sonnetsrus123 (3:54:40 PM): It's no my total favorite, just one of them
sonnetsrus123 (3:54:51 PM): And it was the first one I ever saw, so fond memories
esmith591 (3:54:55 PM): I see
sonnetsrus123 (3:55:22 PM): total fav has to be A Happy Life
purplechocfan (3:55:28 PM): Kamie went on to do some thing in 1990 and 1991
esmith591 (3:55:41 PM): Well, I think it works fine as ep 2 but I can see why they would bury it later -- it's not quite as strong in production values
sonnetsrus123 (3:55:52 PM): REally Elaine? why so?
sonnetsrus123 (3:55:59 PM): I always think it has a strong plot
sonnetsrus123 (3:56:13 PM): and great little scenes b/n the characters
esmith591 (3:56:23 PM): I think there are holes in the script
esmith591 (3:56:32 PM): and they haven't settled into their characters completely yet
vickychandler87 (3:56:34 PM): true
esmith591 (3:56:48 PM): the acting just isn't quite as solid. IMO
timeflies3000 (3:56:51 PM): exactly what i was typing E!
marypeppe (3:56:57 PM): I read somewhere( i don´t remember where), that the producers wheren´t happy with this chapter, badly directed they said
sonnetsrus123 (3:57:11 PM): yes, a little "dreamy" at point, I agree
esmith591 (3:57:44 PM): So if you're hoping to capitalize on the strong opening of the pilot
timeflies3000 (3:57:47 PM): and too, if this is really Ep. 2 and you're trying to establish a series, this isn't enough
esmith591 (3:57:53 PM): maybe you don't want this one 2nd
timeflies3000 (3:57:54 PM): Exactly Elaine!
esmith591 (3:57:57 PM): lol
esmith591 (3:58:15 PM): But it definitely has some nice stuff in it
sonnetsrus123 (3:58:19 PM): yes, I agree it would not have worked as a good 2nd ep---TS is MUCH better for that
timeflies3000 (3:58:27 PM): oh sure
esmith591 (3:58:28 PM): plus Father is much friendlier to C in this
sonnetsrus123 (3:58:40 PM): more conflicts, emotional avenues to explore in TS
esmith591 (3:58:43 PM): which is much more a later development
timeflies3000 (3:58:45 PM): Yes!
esmith591 (3:58:46 PM): Yes
marypeppe (3:58:51 PM): maybe it would´ve work as a 3rd or 4th instead a 10th
timeflies3000 (3:59:05 PM): Gotta do strong V/C presence in a 2nd ep
esmith591 (3:59:11 PM): Is this the one that Koslow wrote but took his name off?
vickychandler87 (3:59:12 PM): I saw it as ep 2, and it wasn't that bad an idea. Besides, it made the tunnel community feel a little closer than all those eps later
timeflies3000 (3:59:18 PM): I think so..
esmith591 (3:59:38 PM): and I think the director was never asked back
vickychandler87 (3:59:40 PM): I mean, I got to see mopre of the tunnels earlier, not at ep 12 Shades of gray
esmith591 (3:59:48 PM): That's a good point, Vicky
marypeppe (4:00:11 PM): I always thought that Shades of gray should have been earlier in the season
sonnetsrus123 (4:00:26 PM): I think I read that they had to re-cut it a lot from the first "draft"
esmith591 (4:00:27 PM): What was it? 12?
esmith591 (4:00:35 PM): Shades of Grey, I mean
lamartus (4:00:43 PM): Yes, 12
marypeppe (4:00:59 PM): ep 12 and almost nobody below knew Catherine?
vickychandler87 (4:01:03 PM): I would have love it after Song of Orpheus, for example, but not earlier
mini4many (4:01:12 PM): no.....SOG would not have been good to early in the season.....not with the ending of C saying "It wasn't courage, it was Love!"
timeflies3000 (4:01:15 PM): that makes sense
esmith591 (4:01:46 PM): I would like to see somebody edit all the V&C scenes together
jecris27 (4:01:53 PM): oh god, me too!
esmith591 (4:01:55 PM): So you could watch the whole relationship
jecris27 (4:02:00 PM): good parts version of batb ;-)
timeflies3000 (4:02:04 PM): great idea
timeflies3000 (4:02:11 PM): lol je!
marypeppe (4:02:17 PM): that´s right, but it´s weird that nobody had meet her almost a year after Vincent found her
vickychandler87 (4:02:22 PM): I've done it, but only audio clips cause I don't know how to edid video... lol!
vickychandler87 (4:02:28 PM): So I have the whole thing
esmith591 (4:02:35 PM): cool
jecris27 (4:02:39 PM): very cool
timeflies3000 (4:02:56 PM): you could totally do it Vicky..
esmith591 (4:03:03 PM): Yes, Mariana -- but she's busy above, Father doesn't want her below -- I could believe it.
vickychandler87 (4:03:14 PM): Me too
esmith591 (4:03:15 PM): sort of
esmith591 (4:03:31 PM): And maybe V wants to keep her to himself
marypeppe (4:03:34 PM): yes.. that could be...
mini4many (4:03:50 PM): and her infrequent visits below were spent all in V's company
vickychandler87 (4:03:54 PM): And it hasn't been a year, only some months
esmith591 (4:04:05 PM): We-lllll
vickychandler87 (4:04:06 PM): maybe three or four?
esmith591 (4:04:08 PM): That's confusing
timeflies3000 (4:04:15 PM): i always wondered if he just didn't want to involve her too much in his life
vickychandler87 (4:04:15 PM): it is
esmith591 (4:04:16 PM): In the pilot, it's 8 months
marypeppe (4:04:24 PM): three chapters after they celebrate the first aniversary
esmith591 (4:04:25 PM): before she sees him again
esmith591 (4:04:38 PM): But 8 months after April 12 is nowhere near Halloween
vickychandler87 (4:04:41 PM): Right, but somehow I've always transformed it to six, it made more sense to me
marypeppe (4:04:45 PM): in temptation I mean
jecris27 (4:05:56 PM): no, it's after
timeflies3000 (4:05:59 PM): I always thought 8 months was way too long
jecris27 (4:06:00 PM): 8+4=12
jecris27 (4:06:03 PM): december
timeflies3000 (4:06:21 PM): to wait to see each other again that is
jecris27 (4:06:28 PM): continuity error
marypeppe (4:07:02 PM): I think, they never pay enough attention to that.. time continuity I mean
esmith591 (4:07:15 PM): I know. I was trying to figure out what time of year Orphans was
esmith591 (4:07:24 PM): It seems like it should be early spring
esmith591 (4:07:38 PM): but that tree at the end has all brown leaves just getting ready to fall
timeflies3000 (4:07:41 PM): I think it may actually be fall in the ep.
mini4many (4:08:02 PM): Early spring or late fall.....no leaves on the trees when C climbs one at the end
esmith591 (4:08:09 PM): It was certainly never summer at all once Catherine met Vincent
vickychandler87 (4:08:38 PM): I think early spring. Remember they celebrate their second aniversary only some weeks after that, and it's april 12
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